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New employees and a more vivid Wiki

The wiki must be alive! We have a great ranking, but happen to really much doing here yet and from a momentum we can not yet speak, which I think is mainly because that the Wiki is still too much for file storage, the ML of the AK stock is still considered . But there'sa much more potential in it. I think we should launch a small campaign. The following I believe to be necessary to bring more activities into the wiki:

1. Other name:Stopretention is unusable and thematically limited to. To him briefly while still holding meaningful, I would suggest Datenschutzwiki.
2. Extension of the target group organizations and activists outside the AK should be personally invited and convinced the wiki to use for their activities. (Press releases work, upload your own materials and make available to the Category: Data protection organizations present ...). This helps to not only stimulate the wiki, but also promotes equal to that the networking link builder.
3. Independence: This is really all other privacy groups and activists can feel at home, it is necessary to insert a neutral logo and clarify the autonomy of the wiki.
4. International versions: The idea and concept of this Wiki, translated into several languages, the project will also strengthen international.

--- Nic 03:09, 30 Dec 2008 (CET)

Against revival is nothing, we should try. But I would ask for a slightly lower pace, to my wishes:

Name # project name space for this wiki useful

1. This wiki project there (from within) prepare

Always the eyes and the head should be kept open for people, ideas, questions, problems (again and again also practice outside perspective) I would first
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*Notto change to "Privacy in general", since the AK is stock with his actions now releases more than Privacy

Not internationalize'since we first come here should be clear, the desire to internationalize should better come from outside

*Notto invite other organizations to join with us, but to improve overall network (in two </ u> directions)

As far as my consent / objection

- Peu

Counter-revival is nothing, we should try. But I would ask for a slightly lower pace, my wishes this:

Sure, something is a lengthy process that should evolve and not be rushed.

This wiki project there (from within) prepare

Always the eyes and the head should be kept open for people, ideas, questions, problems (again and again also practice outside perspective)

What exactly do you mean?

I would for the time being:

Project namespace name for this wiki useful

*Not on "data protection in general" to transition, because the AK is stock with his actions now releases over privacy

Such as? Would you want to go more towards "freedom"? Suggestions?

*Internationalize, since we first come here should be clear, the desire to internationalize should better come from the outside

Before any other language version will be placed, any other issues to be dealt with first. Then, I see no problem in it at least schonmal trial set up an English version.

*No otherre organizations invite us to participate, but the general improvement in networking (both in </ u> directions)

Why not?

--- Nic 15:19, 30 Dec 2008 (CET)

I answer all in: I have only mentioned the issues I initially not </ u> address, would not that are not important, but I would rather do this first the next steps that are urgently needed . Above all: 'Rename project namespacerevitalize and because there are (almost) all in the wiki to coordinating activities for the benefit of the wiki way) - Peu 17:21, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

Ok, we now need time to set the new name for the project namespace. Datenschutzwikiyouwas thematically too restrictive, right? SimplywikiI would not find conclusive enough. (Consider that the name in the results of the search engines will always appear in the title). What more is there options? --- Nic 17:38, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

If your auschließt but based on "so solid" arguments (ie without any tenable "Real code") other members of the WG wiki, it should be difficult to create a living but in particular integrated wiki.

If now the anti-social behavior of other AK-media is transferred to the Wiki, dies the rest (the wiki) the card with him. The corresponding "vote page has been deleted apparently. I would now like to take this in hand position and ask for reconstructive! - Lotar 18:33, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

Better Lotar use, use that word no more, I think that you're making only worm itself. As for your problem, the side which was exactly? I think there will be a solution. - Peu 19:35, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

Dear Nic, I would find "AK wiki" good and "wiki" would be - in my opinion - ok, but I think this should be our vote worth. this, we should first draw up a text that enables the uninitiated to understand this namespace. - Peu 19:35, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

PS: "Wiki" is eliminated, since this prefix is ​​already a (slightly tarnished) Interwikilinks to Ward's wiki functions: wiki: Wiki {{#switch: ;-)

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@ Lotar: The Admin candidacy is still here. What's on Wiki antisocial?

@ Peu: Then let us work out the earliest opportunity. 1. Info text name space problem 2nd Collection of names proposed third Vote if no consensus exists. --- Nic 20:13, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

I mean opinion have been added. Thanks for the link. As obvious internal page will not be indexed by search / (normal user?), I've not found!

@ Nic: I see it so often, that a wiki is a communication channel while, but this corresponds with other existing channels (eg direct mail, phone)! I will now gebasht / was, where it also has another hit, I see (for the AK) critical! The finding someone "anti-women" is, simply enough for me for a decision to be socially competent. This requires "real sign", which are not fully met but (because, I love women and I am courteous, open and friendly ;-)). Also, other "accusations", at least for closer examination (confirmed and legally) is not tenable. But seis drum, the "antisocial" ignores existing limits ... - Lotar 21:07, 31 Dec 2008 (CET)

== == Pages that should be observed

There m.E. some pages that are particularly important / sensitive and should be watched by as many as possible. I once a list started. Please complete. - roam 16:43, 4 Jan 2009 (CET)

Is actually in the project namespace, right? --- Nic 16:53, 4 Jan. 2009 (CET)

But no one is using the project name space. No wonder with the name Monster. - roam 15:31, 10 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Contents

Every time I want to make me the Contents I have the feeling to stand before an impossible task. How we do it all on one page of the wiki content to present a clear and up to date? If we do that anyway? All pages to list individually, I think, in any case be meaningless. Possible, however, the category tree would be reproduced on a page. Or we bind all navigation templates. Probably it would even be a combination of everything.
I am at a loss, but the site is so outdated and so central, and often visited that therestrongly must happen.
On the User: Nic / Contents may be experimenting furiously! --- Nic 22:12, 4 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Meta-namespace now!

We need the file. And indeed as soon as possible. I roll this back and forth for days, but always come back out with the same result.

Candidate name: *About</ tt> - my favorite (short, eloquent, international audience)

• Meta </ ​​tt> - sounds to me personally to be lifted (also based on the eponymous Wikipedia project)
• AK-wiki </ tt> - you wonder now, what AK, the hyphen is also unattractive
• AK-stock-wiki </ tt> - the usual name, dash, ugly, too long
• AK-stock </ tt> - too general, we wanted something to coordinate theWikiarbeit

Incidentally, we could also just go to another room or a name of "failed" to rename. It is important that we have an area where we can coordinate and document the Wikiarbeit without interfering with content or for any project link to always write down an entire prayer need,
say, we let 3apr% C3% A4fixindex & from = & namespace = 4 Stop Data Retention! simply in peace. In the hope to see many of greetings - Peu 00:56, 14 Jan. 2009 (CET)

I think it's damned important that the namespace for search engine users are self-explanatory and applies our intent. He is finally given with each search result. "About" or "meta" unfortunately reveals nothing about the substantive orientation of the wiki. bring to the namespace with the AK stock in connection I find problematic because I see the future potential to be more than the junk room of AK. The [working group http://demorecht.de/wiki/index.php/Hauptseite freedom] works as in its own wiki because he deliberately not under AK-label wants, which is a pity, because now we double track drive it takes to combine synergies. My suggestions would be still "Datenschutzwiki". --- Nic 01:54, 14 Jan. 2009 (CET)

This namespace is primarily forusis necessary. The "real" content are in the main namespace. Actually, I Datenschutzwiki would be too narrow, but that was perhaps for the first ... the other, we can not change its name as simple times ... in this case I would ask in any case the list ML. As I said, I see a huge demand on a meta-name space, with theweget into gear, with new rules, structures, division of laborhereto promote the wiki. For our visitors to the main namespace is there, and structure to the right, we need the meta-namespace. (Possible that I am constantly repeating) - Peu 09:06, 14 Jan. 2009 (CET)

With another namespace (which is my current intention), we would not affect the titles of all pages. - Peu 09:06, 14 Jan. 2009 (CET)

About the project name space perhaps we should discuss next. - Peu 09:06, 14 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Why the namespace "meta," now at Stefan requested. Full confidence that here many of our problems are solved Duch, greets Peu 21:30, 18 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Ideas and concepts

There is the Category: Concept with the strange name or how Concept: Information Package ELENA carry, and take the Action Ideas and Where can I find now what? What are the two categories of thought, exactly? I think you could sum up everything in a Category: Action Ideas, right? --- Nic 01:02, 15 Jan. 2009 (CET)

When I talked it would have caused Another page with activities and ideas. --- Nic 13:15, 15 Jan. 2009 (CET)

I was reminded while reading the mail of grief. Better classify the same. - roam 13:24, 15 Jan. 2009 (CET)

There's already better grasp ... Idea -> design -> Project ...</ tt> - I had some discussion here in the Wiki or on the ML (on the Wikithema) times snapped - Peu 14:01, 15 . Jan. 2009 (CET)

I think it is unreasonable for a project-or three stages set up. How can I think of that? We set the example, first side Idea: Art in Action XY and do there brainstorming. Then we open a new page Concept: Art in Action XY and leave there the result is the brainstorming and organizing ultimately, on the third page of project: art project in XY the actual implementation? In practice, that does not always prevail but only lead to strange excesses, and who is not involved itself in the individual projects will never find an overview. --- Nic 15:21, 15 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Absolutely right, the pages should not be called that, may be outdated, but valuable information (for later imitators) files in sub-pages. The categorization could also reflect the phases that could be solved with tags, where you start each phase =phase</ tt> to adjust. Principle: URI picks, content matures. - Peu 16:08, 15 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Shift of the AG for Wiki Meta

I think here you should make an exception and not move the page in the meta-space. Not only so that it remains consistent with the other working groups, but also because I view it as a kind of gateway into the meta-space and it is also a matrix for non-Wikimitarbeiter. --- Nic 16:27, 19 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Would I even see it. But each project should be largely developed in the meta. Soon we'll see. Regards Peu 16:32, 19 Jan. 2009 (CET)

Meta-space locked == ==

The meta-namespace seems to be blocked according to standart for anonymous users. --- Nic 14:15, 10 February 2009 (CET)

To assume that the problem persists, we had back then with "Portal" (its previous name). Evil asked: Would it be possible that "intern" (numeric 100 and thus user-defined) onlyoff limits' due to a lousy chancefor the unexpected public? I assume that the extension namespace permissions here by default restricts access. If we had to search there again. until then we have to live with this fact. - Peu 15:17, 10 February 2009 (CET)

Yes seems worth reading. Materials for Stefan; conceivable that bureaucrats can turn what (I'll come but ran out of date). Greetings - Peu 15:21, 10 February 2009 (CET)

M.W. is defined in the configuration file. Here come ran not bureaucrats. - roam 16:34, 10 February 2009 (CET)

Please, please (* hands ring *) I know that. But in the Benutzerrechteverwaltion, one could still find something to me at that time were noticed at least as cryptic names that are reminiscent of those that I see in the documentation of the extension. May be wrong. - Peu 16:57, 10 February 2009 (CET)

The user rights apply but for registered users, AFAIK. You can also set rights for unregistered users? - roam 17:08, 10 February 2009 (CET)

Maybe using '*', the exact thought I should try it, the more we can (through the wiki software through) do not. After that Stefan would then turn. - Peu 19:18, 10 February 2009 (CET) ... maybe I should I do on occasion even access to LocalSettings.php? </ Small>

"Username" * "does not exist. Please check the spelling." - roam 19:22, 10 February 2009 (CET)

Advertising?

How should we [https: / / wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de / index.php title = Freedom_Not_Fear_2008 2FBerlin%% 2FTravel_Accomodation & diff = 82 383 = 68 856 & oldid this?] Deal. It is not entirely offtopic, strictly speaking, even the right place, but comes a bit late. - roam 18:15, 11 February 2009 (CET)

... I would consider as a first as a kind of elegant spam, maybe I got to see only executed shortly ... - Peu 19:44, 11 February 2009 (CET)

== Navigation == Rider

Now everyone can be rewritten to be strongly simplified, clearer and with less server load. Reiter_passiv I have to Template: Equestrian bent over, just as php title = Template: Reiter_ng & redirect = no Reiter_ng. The selection of the optics is now dependent on the navigation position by provisions in MediaWiki: Monobook.css. Who here has additions or suggestions can you make love for discussion. The OG-pages of Berlin, Munich and Brunswick schonmal have changed. Hope to everyone's satisfaction. Greetings - Peu 23:05, 13 February 2009 (CET)

Wiki Editing Help page is blank

The Page

http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Stoppt_die_Vorratsdatenspeicherung!:Bearbeitungshilfe

is empty.

Degree views as not, why could not fix myself self. Oh, and the site mentioned is ovn any editing pages link .-- 127.0.0.1 12:11, 23 February 2009 (CET)

Is ok again, cancellation was a mistake. Thanks for the note! - Peu 12:37, 23 February 2009 (CET)

== == Files with umlauts

We have a problem here, see for example Image talk: Logo Privacy ¤ re vs retention large.jpg --- Nic 00:07, 26 February 2009 (CET) Addendum: I remember that we then had the problem with ordinary page name. Can anyone remember why this is located and how the error was corrected. --- Nic 12:10, 26 February 2009 (CET)

== == Local group structure Berlin

Can an admin to forward http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Ortsgruppen/Berlin after http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Berlin ? Cancel

The Page http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Ortsgruppen/Berlin then should be the side of the floor Berlin.

The Page http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Ortsgruppe_Berlin could then be deleted .-- rka 09:25, 26 February 2009 (CET)

The OG page should local group Berlin hot, the other OGs I will persönlcih in the of[[ Meta: structure and navigation / location group pages] ]. Greetings - Peu 09:33, 26 February 2009 (CET)

Wiki support via mailing list

Hello Wikileute,

what do you think of a mailing list for Wiki Support? Because, people who know their way to help people who have problems with this but recht have new medium. We know on the mailing lists is ne Mange more going on, because messages are also written so much. Daily bread so to speak. And then comes the announcement often "manipulated me straightaway to the wiki!" and the tentative answer is "How does s that?" or "Because I do really hard." There, now would they list for wiki questions into play, the people with the questions / concerns could - the first known medium without change - get help, delegate work, perhaps at the beginning or know of a mentor to learn. This idea I carry around with me for a long time. Would be nice if they could find here and the first prospective supporters. Later, the list could perhaps even be a fast seller. Opinions? Greetings - Peu 23:27, 27 February 2009 (CET)

There are some people just chatting respondso, I would find that an excellent facility. But it must be an ML not equal. - Rana

If someone sets up corresponding with while I was in the support team. --- Nic 15:38, 28 February 2009 (CET)

Since Werner's list server no longer accepts new I could set up a mailing list on lists.ak-vorrat.org. - roam 18:38, 28 February 2009 (CET)

Had a great idea when could stand? (Only if one has something about it, or do you vote on something like Vorlage:ML Emoticon) - Peu 22:26, ​​28 February 2009 (CET)

Already happened. Available at http://lists.ak-vorrat.org/listinfo/wiki. If we do not subscribe to the mailing list overview and at least on technology and announce ml, so that people find them. - roam 12:48, 1 March 2009 (CET)

Thanks! I have just mentioned it once in the mailing list list and create a short description:mailing list for Wiki Support . Please go through the text again. In my view, still lack the detailed explanation of the application (step by step) so that no one then it just fails. The announcement from ML or technique I have, therefore, refrain still before the content should agree to some extend. The prominent link in the help pages and the newcomers portal is, in my opinion, to do so. And now please give comments and tips! Corrected edits, you're worth! Many greetings - Peu 14:31, 1 March 2009 (CET)

There is that the member is visible to members. I had set up differently, but I can change. - roam 16:39, 1 March 2009 (CET)

Press Center == ==

Can not automatically include the latest press releases?

Media Center

There is the last release is from 2008 .-- 127.0.0.1 02:44, 28 February 2009 (CET)

Averell, did you have not tinkered schonmal it? --- Nic 15:39, 28 February 2009 (CET)

== == Deletion debate

Where can I find deletion discussions?

On the side http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Ortsgruppen/Berlin/AK_Vorrat_Berlin_e.V. is e.g. no link .-- rka 09:58, 5 March 2009 (CET)

You type LA such Deletion requests you get to a page Help: delete, where there is a paragraphdeletion debatewith the link to Meta: Deletion discussion in the first set. - Peu 10:01, 5 March 2009 (CET)

Ok, thanks. But for whatever reason, the club page deleted emptied, and then locked? Why I do not come from the deleted page Local groups / Berlin / AK_Vorrat_Berlin_e.V. as with http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/index.php?title=Vorlage:FNF-Navi_ei&action=edit for deletion discussion?

Local groups / Berlin / Berlin eV AK stocks you have forgotten the point at the end. The sites you visit so far has never existed. - Peu 13:35, 5 March 2009 (CET)

Ok, I had forgotten what the first question. But now is clear to which side it goes. If now ne answer to my last questions? I think it's important that at this point there is transparency .-- rka 13:48, 5 March 2009 (CET)

I'm assuming it was deleted after the deadline, it was down again but never content, that have caused the blocking then. One would have for now, consult the log book [1]. I'll try to take the results of the consultation on the two relevant entities. The text of Vorlage:Template I think Lemma blocked the way for improvement, currently swinging a bit too much emotion. - Peu 13:59, 5 March 2009 (CET)

A link to the deletion discussion, we should insert into the page. Did I once made. - roam 14:21, 5 March 2009 (CET)

It was observed that the deletion discussion at some point in the Archive to move. - Nic 14:43, 5 March 2009 (CET)

Maybe we should then move on deletion discussions on other pages. - roam 14:57, 5 March 2009 (CET)

Archive and possibly grouped by month (or quarter)? Should we maybe look at WP ... and then transferred to us with reason. - Peu 15:30, 5 March 2009 (CET)

One page per deletion discussion, as in Article discussions too, so in Meta: Deletion discussions / $ page name. Where should one know when a deletion discussion has taken place? If I then add something, I must move them to another archive? By date of application? What if multiple applications were made? After the cancellation date? Ditto. - roam 15:41, 5 March 2009 (CET)

You forget that different page deletions (b) can be temporally related, and (a) may be the deletion of pages also discussed several times (with different content). Therefore, your proposal is not as a penalty. However, he is good, and we might as agreeing on something Meta: Deletion discussion / Archive / page title'- there, we copy the deleted page, if the discussion is over. Or do we like to start a new page for each deletion debate. So the feeling with a sledgehammer to shoot I will not go right, can not help it ... - Peu 20:50, 5 March 2009 (CET)

And you forget that you absolutely can have multiple sections on one page. My suggestion was indeed per deletion debate a new page, so Meta: Deletion discussion /'page title in your writing. So the clear discussion of working group wiki / workshop would be on the: place and stay there, the site also meta deletion discussions / group wiki / workshop. Index could be done by using categories and / or DPL. In the templates for LA and SLA then you can link point to the page. Copy and move actions do not take place, clearly it is. Why shoot a sledgehammer to crack I can not understand. There are also a discussion page per page and not Meta: Discussions and Meta: discussion / Archive. - roam 21:08, 5 March 2009 (CET)

I think we can make the so-as proposed by the. - Peu 09:40, 6 March 2009 (CET)

I have the time tinkered so customized the templates and moved to existing bases LD: Meta: Deletion discussion - roam 18:16, 6. March 2009 (CET)

I had since still got an objection, though admittedly very late: Every once created page - and it is also the complete nonsense - we get so in principle always increase. Say, by deleting them no less. That sounds like a bad balance sheet. (Small green memory hog) Greetings - Peu 21:58, 8 March 2009 (CET) How much longer is this the growth through an edit, the displacement areas and indexing? Not everyone calls LA a Discussion out .-- roam 22:39, 8 March 2009 (CET)

If you think we could do without the discussion, you may be right. What, then, with the future issues? - Peu 22:52, 8 March 2009 (CET)

I do not really nervous ...

But one page per deletion debate is really a flop. Those looking for a page that refers, it is true that the discussion for deletion, because if there was one. But the discussions are a total deletion of course did not find, much less structured. I really see a bit of a risk that we are bogged down here immeasurably. My suggestion: Stick to end discussions (on bases) on a monthly basis, therefore, similar to Wikipedia. I ask for careful consideration of pros and cons. Andplease more involved than Peu + Roam. Greetings - Peu 21:50, 10 March 2009 (CET)

Ok, then I sign sometimes say. I'm actually quite dispassionate about the archive, but a page for each discussion, I am also a bit much. --- Nic 12:10, 11 March 2009 (CET)

All extinguishing Discussions: [https: / / wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de / index.php title = Special% 3apr% C3% A4fixindex & from = Meta% 3AL% C3% B6schdiskussionen% 2F & namespace = 0]

This can be improved safely and categorize the pages as well. One can tinker a DPL template that displays active fire discussions. I find a page a deletion debate not much. One must not always created, but only if there really is need for discussion. Moreover, to avoid this [https: / / wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de / index.php title = Meta% 3AL% C3% B6schdiskussionen & diff = 81 604 & oldid = 81 576 duplicate entries?]. With monthly Wechselde sides must always look first mention, if a discussion has already been done or not and then copying to the current page. In the proposed system is immediately clear where a deletion discussion was conducted. - roam 11:10, 11 March 2009 (CET)

The list of active fire discussions I've tinkered. If the stay in the place prefers to the top of the page or on its own? - roam 10:54, 12 March 2009 (CET)

== == Responsibility for documents

We should form a group of people who are responsive in terms of templates. The personal approach I think is generally not a good idea. Templates that only understands (r) are too complicated. Template Tutorials float before me in this context that matter. (Incidentally, today is why I deleted my responsibilities for the label from the templates). Hoping very well received - Peu 22:57, 8 March 2009 (CET)

Breadcrumbs == ==

How can I create a page with a slash in the title name without me about alleged top displays? CDU / CSU, for example, no base of CDU I would like to know how to make the wiki. --- Nic 14:30, 10 March 2009 (CET)

Short answer: Nothing. The following workarounds are possible:

• Stefan ask the sub-page display for main namespace (ns-0) to switch off again, which would mean however that - as usual in really good Wikis - abandons the Extremhierarchisierung
• Next line of the supposed top do without (rename in will be close as possible with only capital letters and should be included in search)

Hope this helps at least can console - Peu 14:47, 10 March 2009 (CET)

Have times CDU by the cdu, forwarding is working properly. Only drawback, of course, that in pages will always <nowiki> CDU </ nowiki> </ code> or <nowiki> CDU </ nowiki > </ code> must write to CDU | get [CDU] [CDU / CSU] or. - Peu 21:45, 10 March 2009 (CET)

== Versions == problem with images

I upload a picture. Then I write it with a new version, but in the page in which I include it still seems the old version. So I delete the image and upload it again. If I can now embed will still have the old version is displayed in addition also compressed. See the here. Can someone there to say something? Thanks, - Nic 16:33, 13 March 2009 (CET)

This is the caching of Web server or Mediawiki. I suspect that is quite aggressively recruited so that there are no failures when time is very busy again. Workaround would be to change the image size when including minimal, or file name used. Otherwise, User: Hermes to delete the cache. - roam 16:39, 13 March 2009 (CET)

== == Image licenses

Have by Vorlage:Template license tag times some pictures by [[: images without a license] of: Cat], which we all know, of course. But what about the rights of use? I do not doubt me, that's our way of using the principle in the sense of authorship, but that they will be called and the sources are given one to my opinion. What do you think? - Peu 21:18, 15 March 2009 (CET)

Hi Peu canBut what about the rights of usebecause these are all the logos they use, either to lower the threshold of originality or under trademark law?.

This file is a logo or categories, so it makes the subject or name law, must be considered in the further use of these rights. svg you could even use commercial logos as long as they do not manipulate or abused.

They were in the category was actually mostly a freely usable Logo License [2]. Possibly time to tag or something. klml 09:46, 16 March 2009 (CET)

Right, on something I wanted to go out. Knows there anyone better off? Then we could get the current tag by Vorlage:Template right to use logos, etc. Replace. - Peu 09:54, 16 March 2009 (CET)

You should not hearsay trust [3]. For documentation purposes, one can use brand names and logos. As satire, one may also alienate. - roam 10:18, 16 March 2009 (CET)

!::: (A) is Wikipedia = hearsay and (b) I think that you have tuned to update the pictures, that it is acting logos, etc. - Peu 11:01, 16 . March 2009 (CET)

You mean sure it is a "trademark". Logos can be seen even from himself - roam 11:24, 16 March 2009 (CET)

Right. If I understand correctly herein, your objection is correct. - Peu 11:44, 16 March 2009 (CET)

== == Wikiworkshop

On Ortsgruppen/Berlin/2009-03-18 there is a reference to a workshop. I can not find anything about it and am a little surprised about it. Can someone enlighten me what is it? - roam 10:43, 16 March 2009 (CET)

RL-workshop in the c-base. (I will be virtually present) - Peu 11:02, 16 March 2009 (CET)

If it is a workshop of the AG Wiki here I would have expected at least a hint. Front are available 16 members, not just one. - roam 11:11, 16 March 2009 (CET)

I hear between the lines of an allegation of "going it alone"? We get together and deal with questions about this Wiki and the design of the pages relating to Berlin. Is it not follow automatically, "AG Wiki"? At least one "OG Berlin AG Wiki of the AK stock" ;-)

So far, the AG Wiki, like many other working groups here, in my perception, not as a virtual focal point or pin board for questions, todos and a quick introduction. And because we do this Overview as a basis for use the workshop, I was just so bold to call the AG-event.

It is true in any case that the meeting here could apply. - Nic 16:06, 16 March 2009 (CET)

New page

Hi did, sometimes the Berlin Freiheitsredner collected. How was that again with a new page where I put this best? taboo March 21, 2009, 12:01 (CET)

For new or you put a link on a page (ie add <nowiki> new page </ nowiki>), follow the link and put the page simple. Where to file is a matter of opinion. Lists of people, however, in internal matters, eg Internal: Berlin / Freiheitsredner - roam 12:22, 21 March 2009 (CET)

Thanks! The site is now called, as you suggested it. I figure it does not, find out I now link back. Or where it appears. Do you understand my problem? - taboo 20:21, 21 March 2009 (CET)

I think I can do habs. thx for support:) - taboo 20:42, 21 March 2009 (CET)

Page name == == a page name can be changed later? (Specifically:Berlin / FreiheitsrednerinBerlin / Freiheitsredner / volunteers)-- taboo 21:40, 21 March 2009 (CET)

Yes, you can do by clicking the top "move" on. But I think in the case is not useful. Page title should be short and self explanatory. A further breakdown would be necessary only if we have sometimes the Berlin / Freiheitsredner / Involuntary. And I hope that this will not even be the case. :-) --- Nic 20:49, 22 March 2009 (CET)

Very nice: D. No, please do not. Then I let it .-- taboo 22:16, 22 March 2009 (CET)

Apart from the page at some point as long as internal: Freiheitsredner earlier. Then you should divide it as well. - roam 13:21, 23 March 2009 (CET)

Edit

Why can not edit this page http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/index.php?title=Kategorie:Zitate&action=submit? - taboo 23:18, 21 March 2009 (CET)

Actually, it should work. What did you do on the front page? - Nic 20:51, 22 March 2009 (CET)

I would like to change the order. Magritte down .-- taboo 22:14, 22 March 2009 (CET)

Oh, and unfortunately this is not. This is in fact not a regular page, but a category. Categories and alphabetically lists all the pages automatically are assigned to them. Text will be inserted in addition to the one given there always above (or am I not there to date?). More information can be found here: Help: Category. If you want to collect items you should do better there and it take out the redirect: http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/index.php?title=Zitate&redirect=no - Nic 22:26 22 March 2009 (CET)

Äääh, ok, tomorrow or so. Thanks to you :)-- taboo 22:32, 22 March 2009 (CET)

Spam, other wiki software?

Since apparently no stopping at Mediawiki spam I propose a change to a different wiki engine. E.g. MoinMoin. MediaWiki hardly works anyway for group work, especially because it does not allow groups with different rights. In MoinMoin, I would help you set up. - Vinci 10:28, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

The problem is m.E. Mediawiki does not, but [[User: We do not store | We do not store]!]. The same problem you had with other systems also. This is not to stifle debate on other software, I like other Wikisysteme prefer, but we should also have [[User: We do not save | We do not store]!] speak. . One of storing IP or user name for a few days in case of an attack should not hinder </ small> - roam 10:36, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

Nene, it requires no IP addresses. [Http: / / de.wikipedia.org / wiki / Captcha CAPTCHA] and TextCha (MoinMoin) can stay like that. As far as storing enough sometimes just a few minutes or hours purely to push ne lock. Maybe say IP addresses of spam are stored - thus a selective storage in case of need. First, I would just try to Enable the drive for MediaWiki CAPTCHA. Silencing the debate already? TextChas are accessible way! - Vinci 10:55, 5 May 2009 (PDT) (Supplement: http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/)

It's not just IP addresses but also user name. Captcha for unregistered visitors is already enabled. Maybe we should turn for the "anonymous" users. A selective retention would be useful, but what you want to select? - roam 11:10, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

It is, after all this vandalism not a bot, you can block by captchas. - Cebe 16:14, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

Roam', Vinci, you have absolutely no insight:MediaWiki works [is] </ s> anyway hardly for group work! Jo, that is why the English Wikipedia already> 2000000 articles. Roam hats covered, only you have to admit that the storage of IP addresses but to what is profitable and it is against this project. How do we get out of this dilemma just get out? CAPCHA, pfff .... Go right ahead. - 12:13, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

Ahja, "pfff .... make peace." - We may interpret this as an offer? We store IP addresses, and you are left alone? ... ;-) I'll take off, yes, but why should we be blackmailed us? What is in this for us? (Hint: "Safety spam / vandalism" it is not). AK-stock-member 16:07, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

For you, nothing jumps out, that's the stupid. At least not according to your standards. One could also say: For you jump out a little more reality-confidence! - 16:19, 5 May 2009 (PDT)

Of course you should then introduce captcha for registered users. It's about to change scripted Massenediits. This does not prevent people edit something, enter the CAPTCHA manually. So not ALL registered - In MoinMoin, one would set up a group page, which contains selective user. If one of the users rumspackt, he is thrown out halt. This 0% spam could be reached. Me that's too stupid jeedefnalls here constantly encountering spam preventable and if nothing changes there, I am sure I were to use that our OG pulls out all here. Because we are otherwise associated with the spam. - Vinci 13:48, 6 May 2009 (PDT)

Flagged Revisions == == {{}} Stable versions in discussion Since when? Who had the idea? What's new? Thank you in advance for some enlightenment! Greetings - Peu 10:32, 30 May 2009 (PDT)

• What's this? Where can i get it? - Cebe 21:37, 30 May 2009 (PDT)
• Simple, are you looking here: Special: Version top "Flagged Revisions (version 1010), or on any other page. .. - Peu 23:20, 30 May 2009 (PDT)

* Okay, there it is, but not see that it is active somewhere ... --CeBe 04:32, 1. July 2009 (UTC)

But others, [https: / / wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de / index.php title = Special% 3ABenutzer & username = & group = editor & limit = 100 "our" faces]. Presumably, Patrick again sone idea ... [https: / / wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de / index.php title = Special = & type% 3ALogbuch rights & user = & page =] and it seems to make sysops themselves to the classifier. I have no idea about the background. Greetings - Peu 09:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ps: Patrick had once asked to [https: / / wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de / index.php title = User_talk% 3APatrick & diff = 91 536 & oldid = 79 330?] ... - Peu 09:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

The idea probably came after Werner, Stefan and co. the nose had been replaced and fully mod-remove-ip against mod-scramble. The purpose should be that the blemishes are not seen directly on the pages visited, but remain in the non-sighted versions. For that we must now sift every change. It can probably be made to non-sysops classifiers. I've tried this yet, however. How can one know for who is trustworthy, if all work anonymously? - roam 09:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

And the right box will be further refined. Not so good. - Peu 12:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== == Classifier are {{}} Stable versions in discussion Can I have classifier status? :) Thank you. - Validom 15:45, 1st July 2009 (UTC)

Granted. :-) - Peu 15:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

New wiki project

Anyone interested can get on the WikiProject: revise templates part would be nice. Regards, Peu 21:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

New start for OG-name

Meta: structure and navigation / location Pages group who has an opinion about this project should express them there. - Peu | write me ... 17:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Page OG == == Jena

The page is blank http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Ortsgruppen/Jena as unauthenticated user. Can anyone tell me off, why is that and the perhaps? Thank you.

This is actually an error, so far I have no idea what it could be. And indeed it is - as far as I've tested it - the only site with such a mental. - Peu | write me ... 10:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

One side effect of the "sighting system '. After viewing the page is readable and unannounced. I'm curious. - roam 16:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Then we should overturn the Sichterkrempel quickly (certainly only my opinion) - Peu | write me ... 20:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks a lot. Now I would be happy if a classifier was on my last changes. :-)

E-mail function

Whoever types receive his mail address to Wiki-mails to get the following mail:

The e-mail functionWikipedia'to activate (again) and to confirm that this account really does to your e-mail address and therefore belongs to you, please open the following Web Address ... - Nic 19:11, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Done [4], if I understand correctly. Greetings - Peu | write me ... 23:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

AK Supply

The site is blocked, which is absurd. Please free up time and fill with content. An AK stock, is not even a sentence to say to make themselves ridiculous. Greetings - Peu | write me ... 09:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki: Inventory and further design

Wikiaktive Hi, I ask you please have a look at the two sides Internal: we will use the wiki - Discussion of what we do Internal: Working Group wiki software - get discussion on whether and how we (can) Greetings - Uncopy 21:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Anon == CSS ==

# P-personal li # pt-userpage a,
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a: visited,
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a.new,
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a.new: visited {
  color: transparent;
}
</ Pre>
This code can appear transparent to the user name. This is useful when working in the public. Would it be possible to include it into the Mediawiki CSS? -  Tuttle 13:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I would rather offer a way as happened here. (Habs mal 'n bit reformatted). If there are difficulties during installation, could indeed be helped ... -  Uncopy 22:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:: If any person shall install the user base is very restricted and thus more easily traceable. What's wrong with this patch? -  Tuttle 13:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::: Dagen says that so far no one - except me - asks. Ultimately, criticism of technocracy. In addition, the lower "usability" to click a link that is invisible is not so great. -  Uncopy 13:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::: Here is a version showing the anonymity even more. This can avoid confusion, but is more noticeable. I think the first version better, but it can confuse novice users. Your own user name, you can find in both versions, by the point with the mouse marked .-- Tuttle 13:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a,
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a: visited,
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a.new,
# P-personal li # pt-userpage a.new: visited {
color: # 000;
background: # 000;
}
</ Pre>
: What's the point for using CSS to hide text? Therefore they are still in the source code available, so read for anyone with very little effort. If (for whatever reason) would not show user name, they can not at first either write or to filter out before output. -  Cebe 08:51, 2 November 2009 (CET)
:: It helps to have the anonymity of nicknames when people you can look over the shoulder on the train, at work, at conferences ... -  Tuttle 10:01, 2 November 2009 (CET)
::: Then it should install but also every man for himself / on when he wants to use it ... Is there ne way that incorporated into the user settings? -  Cebe 14:07, 2 November 2009 (CET)

Here is a very compact version:
 li # pt-userpage {display: none;}
-  Uncopy 13:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
: In order to get more difficult but to his user page. -  Tuttle 15:54, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:: There are probably ways of using CSS and fixed text display something like "I" war, but not the point. Maybe because I also understand what is wrong. And yes, the user page to get this form only indirectly. -  Uncopy 15:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::: What is the benefit that would have then? -  Tuttle 11:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
"Can we ensure that the users on the Internet no one looking over his shoulder." According to We do not save! We should therefore incorporate the CSS snippet. -  Tuttle 11:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:: And what if someone wants to see where his user name? I think of such a pre-optimization at all. Actually, there were far more important things to do than to ask himself where we could then moreWe do not save! Put into it. For all the love that I have learned in years of experience at last, what next real release, not all do possible. -  Uncopy 11:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== == Slogans and slogans

somehow scrap: Slogans_und_Parolen could not restore or delete the non-existent. -  Vinci 17:23, 30 March 2009 (CET)